By Manila Ryce
Published Wednesday, March 21st, 2007, 8:50 pm
Filed under: Videos: Debate, Videos: Political, Environment, Videos, US Politics

10 Responses to “I Love Barbara Boxer”

1. 

   Fuck Yeah. Her and Diana Feinstein are two reasons to be a proud Californian!

   PapaFigue
   03/23/07 at 11:12 am
   
2. 

   You’re joking right? Sometimes I can’t tell when the Admin is being sarcastic or clever or truthful. I guess it’s the day in age we live in. Funny how sarcasm became a mainstreme form of humor, while at the same time, the hardest medium to detect sarcasm, text, became more and more rampant.

   I digress.

   Having met with both these stoogatz biatches in person I can tell you they’re nothing more than stooges playing the game like the rest of them. Especially Feinstein. In this day in age, with all that’s at stake between all aspects of domestic policy and foriegn policy, the Congress remains in lip-service as they continue thier perenial position as the foriegn policy arm for the military manufactures, big oil bankers and special interest lobby groups.

   We shouldn’t dare ever applaud the efforts of these freakishly-midget-ladies who have backed the war in Eurasia and spearheaded NOTHING progressive nor timely to resolve the drastic conflicts we have at home and abroad. Rather, they seem to float around their comrades, circling the band-wagons of what ever seems to pop-up in the headlines at the time.

   Furthermore, Al Gore and a lot of these environmentalists ARE full of shit on many levels but we can get into that on another post.

   yazo
   03/23/07 at 2:04 pm
   
3. 

   @yazo
   No, I actually do like Boxer. Her environmental voting record is top notch, she voted against the war in Iraq, and she’s got the balls to put people in their place. She’s a true liberal. I don’t pick sides to simply applaud Democrats for being Democrats. However, we should give credit where credit is due, and I think this clip shows the kind of attitude more Dems should adopt if they actually ever hope to change things.

   Manila Ryce
   03/23/07 at 11:18 pm
   
4. 

   @Yazo. No I wasn’t joking, nor am I implying that, thanks to these two ladies, the Democrats are somehow not pussies. But, as pointed out by Manila Ryce, the Senators from California, whom I have watched for the last 6 years, have consistantly impressed me with their voting record. Both Feinstein and Boxer have taken firm stands for the environment, civil rights, and against the war in Iraq. When the Christian Right tried to amend the Constitution of the United States to deny marriage rights to gays, it was Boxer who took the lead in reminding them of what their true priorities should be, (Still at War, assholes!) When Edison tried to force tribes off their reservations in Utah in order to strip mine the land for coal, Feinstein was one of the chief opponents to this. No, I don’t put much stock in politicians, but I do give credit where it is due.
   As far as “a lot of environmentalists being full of shit,” my question to you is, What’s your Point? You can have any opinion you want, but the fact of the matter is the Climate Crisis is Real. You can either hide your head in the sand and pray, just like our illustrious administration, or you can wake up and take some action. (The good news is that the action we, the people, can take isn’t even that complicated!) But Pretending the problem isn’t real doesn’t make it go away. In fact, it makes it worse. Global Warming is Not controversial among Scientists, you know, the guys who actually study and keep records of this stuff. Meanwhile, bible thumpers like Jim Inholfe rely on some book with a cross on it, in which there is no mention of global warming or even CO2, (or dinosaurs and atomic energy for that matter), and swear that it’s all a hoax.
   In the end, just weigh it dude! If we take action and the scientists turn out to be wrong, we will still have alternative energy and a cleaner environment. On the other hand, if we do nothing and the scientists are right, then we literally face endangerment, and quite possibly, extinction.
   Hmm…
   Yeah, you’re right, that’s a Real Tough Choice!

   PapaFigue
   03/24/07 at 8:08 am
   
5. 

   Firstly, after writing letters to Diane regarding the war and recieving responses about “following through” and “our responsibility,” any support I had for her went out the window. If these ladies were so gung-ho, how come we don’t hear more from them on the subject. Are you telling me that a simple tounge lashing to some neo-con makes a saint of this woman? Common now. Don’t we know better? Meanwhile, last time I looked, which as been awhile so I may be wrong, both were supporters of Israel and their occupation of Palestine. Neither has ever spoken out on the subject. And any lady who wears as much makeup as they do is hidding something.

   Now, enviornmental issues.

   Lemme get on my soapbox for a moment and talk about Al Whore.

   It was my understanding that Al didn’t protest the rigged ‘00 election because it was his intention to run again in ‘04, and a re-count would ruin his chances, the same way/reason Nixon didn’t contest the 1960 election. However, he didn’t run in ‘04. I have no idea why. Maybe someone can explain it to me.

   He’s not running now either. Rather he’s going around the world talking about Global Warming. It’s not that I disagree with global warming. But the angle in which these enviromentalists examine it is very, very limited. Meanwhile, and more importantly, none of them, especially Gore examine radical and innovated solutions to the problem.

   I watched his Oscar award winning movie. And I saw a lot of problems with it, not just form a movie perspective (it was terribly boring) but it simply didn’t offer much in terms of solutions. I can get into details but I would much rather point out the groundbreaking, revolutionary opportunities that ARE available to resolve this problem.

   I had attended a conference in Los Angeles in Feb, and at this conference there were many notable scientists talking about global warming, but offering REAL, IMMEDIATE solutions to the problem. Zero Point Energy would be the grandest of them, scaling down to hydrogen based energies, water based energies and oxygen based energies.

   THESE TECHNOLOGIES DO EXIST. WHY DOES AL GORE NOT SPEAK OF THEM?

   Why do the majority of the bandwagon environmentalists ignore them? Telling everyone to get off oil and coal and bla bla bla is all well and good. Spreading the truth about the reality of Global Warming is all well and good. But there IS a solution out there. But no one is saying what it is.

   In Al’s movie there is so little mention of these humanity-changing technologies and NO mention of zero-point energy. His movie is essnetially, 97% problem and 3% possible, gerenalized, solutions.

   OK, I’m rambling now, going in circles. Fuck my oppinion.

   What’s another name for someone who goes around talking problems without solutions? Oh yeah, a politician.

   yazo
   03/24/07 at 7:05 pm
   
6. 

   @Yazo. No, I agree that writing letters to politicians is a waste of time. What you get in return is an automated response in form letter. I would trust you would also know this.
   Of course there are solutions to global warming. There are in fact many, which you seem to be aware of, and some of which are in fact mentioned in the movie. But is also a fact that in this country, the climate crisis is still considered controversial and in many minds not even a threat. Jim Inholfe, the President-appointed Secretary of Environmental Affairs, still insists it is all a hoax fabricated to scare the American people.
   The American people should be scared, because it isn’t a hoax. But as Al Gore put it, “We have everything we need to solve this problem EXCEPT for political will.” All the solutions you mentioned are solid and sound solutions, but guess what’s not getting any support from the government and over half of the public sector. California tried to pass a law that would put into place an infrastructure for supporting research and developement of these alternate technologies. Guess who opposed it. The Chevron Corperation. The initiative was defeated by 51% of the vote. Amazing huh?
   I’m not going to argue with you over whether or not Al Gore is a politician. That to me would be redundant. I would only point out that the message of his film, which somehow you found boring, is both real and critical, and is mostly aimed at the overall mentality of this nation that we really don’t have nothing to worry about. You’re right that we have technology to solve it, but without the will or the perceived need, what good is it? This is a call to action, plain and simple.

   3+1=4. Now, I don’t care how much you may hate the number 1, the equation still equals 4.

   So are you going to sit around all pissed off at the fact that we have politicians in politics, or are you going to actually try to think of something that may help?

   PapaFigue
   03/25/07 at 8:01 am
   
7. 

   Help? What needs help man. What is this that we’re doing here? Therapy? You don’t know where I’ve been. What I’ve done and what I do.

   But I help one person my friend: Me. I do what makes me happy.

   Everything’s about energy and what I put my energy into. I write on this because I think it’s a funny site and lots of people are very angry without direction and maybe my thoughts will give people another idea. But whatever. I think it’s cool that people like to participate in the government. There’s nothing wrong with that. I think it’s cool that people are informed about the environment. I think it’s nice that Papa likes his movie so much. What ever people wanna do, let ‘em do, that’s my motto. Persuit of happiness right?

   But next time Papi when you wanna get personal and ask me what I’m gonna do… at least be forthright enough to include a list of your contributions — and I sure hope you wouldn’t be as tasteless to list them now — before you call me out in old west fashion. This corespondence forum should never get personal beyond hand slapping oppinions.

   Meanwhile,

   Let’s play out Al Gore’s precieved intention. Congress opens up discussions or something about a problem. A year later, it’s established that: there is indeed, offcially a problem. Then, they start discussing how to solve it. A year later and they’ve reached a solution of either two avenues.

   A). We open it up to people to give ideas and we’ll give them money to do it.
   B). We have someone preselected to get things going.

   Then a committee is started. A year later, something happens. Then more talking. Then more research. You really want Congress to handle this problem?

   What did congress do with their investigation of 9-11? They butchered it in Warren Commission fassion. They basically said that the world experienced the greatest, most magical hapenstance of physics in the history of the unvierse. All physical laws on earth were broken that day at that time and the terrorists did it and… the war must go on.

   In highschool, a few people used to talk about saving animals. And I always added, “Who gives a fuck?” At the time I was zelous. :) But my point was always that PEOPLE are dying everyday from something preventable — so why don’t we save them?

   Outsourcing labor through our colonial trading grids, a currency measured in oil prices, disintergration of the industrial sector and now this 4 billion a month, trillion dollar WAR.

   The housing market has crashed. Banks have stopped issuing zero down financing. Mortgages are turning over and people are becoming homeless by the day. And gas is $3.35/gallon in California. If the war stopped tomorrow, maybe we wouldn’t sucumb to the most rampent onslaught of hyper-inflation since Germany after WWI.

   Congress has done nothing. The people have done nothing. The people don’t want change. They say they do, but they really don’t do anything. The people are soaking it in. The people are waking up. They are being informed — I can only guess that the reaon why there hasn’t been another 9-11 yet is because the people would see through it this time… (he he he fool me once…) Sure, it’s cool that people in the midwest are turned on to the reality of Global Warming. Alright, who cares about the details. It’s the issue that matters but I think it’s funny that if you throw a scrap of bread to the masses they scramble like pidgons trying to bite at it.

   Anyone who has studied the timeframe of the effects of global warming, would know that the immdiate timetable of big problems is within then next 5 years.

   Imgine if Al Gore is put in charge of some enironmental thingie. Do you trust him? I wonder what hedge fund the money for that movie came from.

   yazo
   03/25/07 at 9:51 am
   
8. 

   Well, I think for the first time in this dialogue, you and I are in agreement.
   People in this nation would rather watch Anna Nicole and Britney instead of dealing with real issues. Perhaps I shouldn’t pick on the US so much, for I think it’s a universal human tendancy to avoid looking at hard stuff and rather favor shiney things. Again, I’m not going to argue with you over the pitfalls of depending on the Government to fix everything. But as you put it, we are entering a period of serious consequences within the decade. We at the very least need to get the ball rolling. Do I have hope for mankind? Not a lot.
   But what can I say, I’m an idealist at heart.

   PapaFigue
   03/26/07 at 10:51 am
   
9. 

   There’s always hope my friend. Always…

   You think the darkness would be scrambling as much as it is if they didn’t fear the true potential of mankind? We are in the midst of a beautiful transition… one like the world has never seen. The bulb always burns brightest before it goes out… and when it does, humanity will triumph and we will be a part of that transition. And decades later, grandkids will ask us what it was like to watch it all go down and then build it up again. And we’ll answer with a smile, “Actually, it was kinda fun.”

   yazo
   03/27/07 at 12:45 pm
   

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