By Manila Ryce
Published Thursday, May 31st, 2007, 6:35 am
Filed under: Videos: Debate, Videos: Political, Environment, Videos, US Politics

9 Responses to “Al Gore - The Assault on Reason (Full Speech)”

1. While I appreciate the idealism behind Gore’s message I can’t help but feel he’s missing the big picture. I also remember how easily he rolled over in 2000, and that is something I’ll never forget.

   So while there is an ‘assault on reason’ the reason behind it is that we as a society have inadequate understanding of certain psychological realities.

   Anyway there’s an interesting work discussing Gore’s new book here that you may want to take a look at.

   peaceLOVE
   cg

   cyregray
   05/31/07 at 10:03 am
   
2. 

   I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again: FUCK AL GORE.

   He’s a whore. Don’t trust him. He serves as a lesson to us — reminding us that the dark age of liars dressed up as wise men is far from over. When we trust, listen and adhere to a guy like this, we give ourselves up to the very side that this site, in particular, is against.

   yazo
   05/31/07 at 6:22 pm
   
3. 

   @cyregray
   Interesting article. Thanks for sharing. I agree completely with what I’ve read so far, but I’ll have to read the rest when I have a day or two put aside for it. Gore did give up too easily, and didn’t run on a campaign any different than that of Bush’s in 2000. Had he actually ran as a liberal, with the ideals no one knew he had, he would’ve had my support.

   @Yazo
   Ah, I thought this post would attract your criticism. Good show. As you know, I’m not a big fan of Gore either, but his recently high profile does seem to be attracting attention to serious issues. I have no problem with him getting media attention, as long as we don’t cling to him as the liberal messiah we’ve been looking for. Disappointment after disappointment from the Democrats ought to show us that we’re the only real saviors we can trust.

   Manila Ryce
   05/31/07 at 7:21 pm
   
4. 

   Again, I call on all the haters to save your precious lifeblood energy. It is futile to point out the man’s faults as evidence against to what he is saying. Honestly, I do believe him when he said, in a recent response to a question regarding whether or not he’s planning on running for president, and I’m paraphrasing, “I’m doing much more good for the country now than I could hope to do in office.”

   Here’s the way reason and logic works: If it’s fact, then it’s fact. No amount of “belief,” no amount of “religion,” and no amount of mudslinging can mar the facts, if they are facts.

   You don’t have to like him. But you do have to consider, if you are a reasonable person, that things like the Climate Crisis and the Invasion of Iraq, as well as the plethora of topics he covered, are not rantings. These are real, factual problems supported by mountains of Evidence. Whether or not you “like” the guy is irrelevent.

   PapaFigue
   05/31/07 at 9:04 pm
   
5. 

   Assault on Reason. My god man. They should piss in buckets and throw it at him for crying out loud. Follow the money. He didn’t run again in the elections because he’s a stooge. A goon. Just another in the long line of blood drinking, sun worshiping, mindless vessels that have been packaged to the world as some sort of figure head.

   @Paps. Sure. It’s easy to go on record after the fact and proclaim yourself as a wiser man for not getting involved. Your explanation of logic is actually illogical but we won’t get into the semantics of it all. By your definition, anyone who agrees with your facts is what then? Right? Or Al Gore? You’re still not saying what he is, or what he means to you. You sound like your pillow has a picture of him, the way you paint him as some serious person to be taken seriously. Common man, you of all people should know he’s only spouting bullshit that some banker fed him this morning.

   You say, “Whether or not you “like” the guy is irrelevent.” Then what are you doing on this site? Shit. I might as well watch the fucking news or something, or just read antiwar and prepare to jump off a cliff. Climate Crisis and invasion of Iraq. It’s 2007. Could we be more general Papa? Manila said it best: He’s being created as the liberal messiah. He crashes around the world selling some bullshit about CO2 and pictures of dying baby animals.

   Why do I get so pissed about this? Because this fucker Al Whore should’ve been thrown to the wolves by now and exposed as the baby-eating vampire that he is. Along with Barak Obama and that wretched horned beast, Hillary Clinton.

   You wanna talk messiah’s? Long Live Dennis Kucinich, the man with a real plan. Beyond that. Get over messiahs. Coz get what folks:

   YOU’RE THE MESSIAH

   yazo
   06/1/07 at 12:52 am
   
6. 

   @Yazo:
   Baby eating Vampire….
   Wow. Any proof of this?

   PapaFigue
   06/1/07 at 8:19 am
   
7. 

   @Yazo:
   Baby eating Vampire….
   Wow. Any proof of this?
   Again, your personal attacks on Gore as well as myself have done nothing to disprove the points I made regarding logic. In fact, you’ve only served to prove my point, so thank you.
   To answer your questions, it’s irrelevent whether or not anyone “agrees” with “my” facts. If the facts are facts, that is, supported by research and evidence, then they are valid regardless of whether or not anyone agrees. Reasonable people, recognizing the validity of fact, tend to agree with them, but they aren’t really under any obligation to. One can of course choose not to, hence the Christian Right and the Bush Administration.
   As far as “liking Al Gore,” I think it’s comical that you imply that I’m on this site simply because I “like” Al Gore. You disprove your own statement by the simple Fact that you Don’t seem to like Al Gore, and yet here you are. You don’t have to take the man seriously if you don’t want to, but the words he’s saying, particularly regarding the Climate Crisis, the War, the Assault on Reason, are nonetheless valid. No one takes Stephen Colbert or Jon Stewart seriously, but check out how much truth they actually spout.
   My point is, again, that when a person says something that is factually true, it really shouldn’t matter whether or not anyone else “likes” that person. I find it sad and alarming that I have to repeat the point, not to mention the fact that I must explain it to you. You probably will retort by another series of rants and personal attacks, completely ignoring any of the facts I’ve stated so far.

   That doesn’t strike me as very reasonable, and frankly, I’m really not surprised.

   PapaFigue
   06/1/07 at 8:31 am
   
8. 

   A). Read what you wrote out loud without getting drunk before you write it and tell me if it makes any sense. I encourage everyone else to do the same. It reads like F-O-B’s rendition of Shakespeare in the park. You’d make a lousy, lousy lawyer my friend. See: now this is me getting personal. This is ME getting personal.

   B). Facts? You want facts? What the fuck is Al Whore saying that is a fact? “The war is bad.” “The earth is getting hotter.” Shit, George Bush states “facts” all the time according to your “logic,” which still isn’t a definition. What FACTS have you said! Nothing! You’re ranting just as bad as I am. Shit man! “Facts” he says. What facts! You know there’s a lot of fact that there might be a climate problem — but it has nothing to do with Co2!!! Yes! In FACT! It probably has more to do with the recent accellerated solar flare activities that the sun is giving off — as charted by the MezoAmericans thousands of years ago. And there’s plenty of FACT that AL GORE is a whore, linked and funded to British Banking houses and has been so for a long time. And he’s being brought up as the liberal messiah as Manila put it, because he’s easily debunked by “conservatives” and easily embraced by “liberals.” I am neither, because, I don’t believe in Beatles, I just believe in me.

   C). And yes it DOES matter what we think of someone. Whether they speak fact or not. Look at ol’ Lyndon LaRouche! He’s been saying fact for decades now but no one takes him seriously! Nor do anyone on this site talk about him! Nor do you Papa! Meanwhile Papa! He’s been more RIGHT and FACTUAL than every American political figure of the last fifty years! Too bad he’s a nutjob and no one will ever take him seriously! So don’t give me this bullshit about how it doesn’t matter. Because it sure as hell does.

   D). I didn’t personally attack you because I didn’t call out your mom or how ugly you must be. ;-) Learn the difference kid. Everything’s a war with you little brats on this site because you’re all too busy masturbating to horror. And here I am when I get bored, getting wrapped up in this nonsense. Meanwhile, there’s plenty of ladies out there who are more than willing to swab your nob and eliminate all this undo stress that you seem to have taken on your shoulders. Life is beautiful. I stand by my last remark: YOU’RE THE MESSIAH. Get over all this bullshit because it’s a fucking illusion anyways. You can’t even begin to understand the ramifications of Zacharia Sitchin because you’re too busy worried about the wool that’s been placed over your eyes. Go outside, breathe the air — YOU’RE ALIVE. Remember that. Coz’ ya’ll seem too interested in stroking yourselves to the news, watching yourself grow on how right or wrong you are and how much you know about things that in the end don’t really matter.

   Oh, guess what folks, all of this, ALL OF THIS, it’s been the same since Babylon, top to bottom. The only difference now is that we have central air conditioning. So, be thankful. Coz it’s a helluv a lot better now that it’s ever been.

   Did you chose this life or did this life choose you? That question is for everyone. Enough outta me — it’s Friday night and I’m off to embrace the world!

   p.s. yes, I’m sure Al Whore eats children, as he’s a fellow Grovesman, and participates in the druid mock child sacrifice every year. It’s not too much of a stretch after that. However, it could just be colorful writing. And we’re chalk full of that man!

   yazo
   06/1/07 at 5:53 pm
   

9. To decide the roles of Man and Sun in causing global warming, one must first decide if the Sun - the heat source for planet Earth and the rest of the solar system - is:

   a.) A ball of hydrogen with a steady, well-behaved hydrogen-fusion reactor at its core, as assumed by NASA, Al Gore, and those favoring Anthropological Global Warming, or

   b.) The erratic and violent iron-rich remains of a supernova [www.omatumr.com] that ejected the material now orbiting it as planets, moons, asteroids, comets and meteors.

   Al Gore and others who think our influence on planet Earth exceeds that of the Sun can prove their point by directing us to their predictions of two recent solar excursions described in Stuart Clark’s new book, “The Sun Kings”.

   1. Solar storms in the fall of 2003 are described in the book’s Prologue:

   “During October and November that year, the Sun was wracked by a succession of explosions known as solar flares”.

   “Just a few weeks before, there had been no hint of such activity”.

   “On 28 October, scientists’ worst fears were realized.”
   “Fifty billion times the energy of an atomic bomb was released . . .”

   ” . . . erratic currents surged along northern power lines, eventually damaging power stations and blacking out fifty thousand people in Sweden.”

   “The worldwide marine emergency call system became inoperable . . .”

   “…Earth-orbiting satellites began to behave erratically.”
   “Airlines hastily rerouted flights . . .”

   2. Solar storms in the fall of 1859 are described in the book jacket:

   “In September of 1859, the entire Earth was engulfed in a gigantic cloud of seething gas, and a blood-red aurora erupted across the planet from the poles to the tropics.

   Around the world, telegraph systems crashed, machines burst into flames, and electric shocks rendered operators unconscious. Compasses and other sensitive instruments reeled as if struck by a massive magnetic fist.

   For the first time, people began to suspect that the Earth was not isolated from the rest of the universe.”

   We certainly had not anticipated the timing, but published an explanation of the solar storms near Halloween of 2003 shortly before they occurred [Journal of Fusion Energy 21 (2002) 193-198; http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0501441]

   Al Gore and the scientific community may be reluctant to admit that Earth’s climate is controlled by a power they do not understand.

   But that fact will not be changed by the consensus opinion of NASA scientists or others who assume that Earth is isolated from the rest of the universe.

   Oliver K. Manuel?www.omatumr.com?omatumr.com@yahoo.com

   Oliver Manuel
   06/3/07 at 1:16 am
   

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