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Ralph Nader Finally Enters the Presidential Race

By Manila Ryce
Published Sunday, February 24th, 2008, 7:55 pm
Filed under: Videos: Political, Videos: News, War, World Issues, Videos, US Politics

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What? Choice? That’s not what democracy is all about. How dare a liberal go against the mafia… I mean the Democratic Party. The Democratic spin machine (yes, the Democrats have one too) has so successfully scapegoated those who don’t play ball that the issue isn’t even up for debate anymore - even amongst the so-called freethinking blogosphere. It’s mindlessly accepted by all that Nader is to blame for everything since 2000, and not the actual Democratic politicians who’ve made it all possible.

Props to American heroes like Nader for pushing liberal principles and human rights issues - Palestine being one of them. Someone has to, and the Democrats have failed the world so much on these fronts that it’s simply stupid for any self-described liberal to associate themselves with such an organization. Nader said he will decide within the coming days how he is going to run for President in terms of ballot access. I’m not sure if I’ll be voting for him this time, especially if McKinney gets the Green nomination, but it’s essential to democracy that we have the choice.

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9 Responses to “Ralph Nader Finally Enters the Presidential Race”

  1. Go easy there Mr Ryce. You were until recently campaigning for a Democratic Party presidential candidate.

    cine
    02/24/08 at 9:04 pm

  2. …the Democrats have failed the world so much on these fronts that it’s simply stupid for any self-described liberal to associate themselves with such an organization.

    cine
    02/24/08 at 9:05 pm

  3. @cine
    Ah, good point. Here’s the difference:

    I support Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, but have never supported the Democratic Party. In fact, part of what I like about both men is that they fight against party leaders. I have never been associated with the Democratic Party itself, only with a very select handful of Democrats for the sake of their individual visions. There’s a difference. While I do respect both men, I disagree with their choice to remain in the party. Even before the presidential race began, long-time readers know I’ve criticized the Democrats more heavily than the Republicans on this blog.

    Manila Ryce
    02/24/08 at 9:11 pm

  4. I have great respect for Mr Nader but how can he succeed where Kucinich could not? And by success I don’t mean win the presidency. 5% nationally would be a win.

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad he’s running. I just don’t see how he’s going to get any more purchase than Kucinich.

    Maybe it doesn’t matter. It will be a glorious, romantic, noble defeat, and at least his supporters can say they tried.

    Call me a cynic/defeatist if you want but I just don’t see how things are going to get any better till they get a LOT worse.

    cine
    02/24/08 at 9:43 pm

  5. I just don’t see how things are going to get any better till they get a LOT worse.

    My thoughts exactly. I don’t vote simply to be on the winning team. I vote for the candidate who has my interests at heart. Whether they win or not is irrelevant.

    Manila Ryce
    02/24/08 at 9:46 pm

  6. Nader is not black enough or woman enough or democrat enough or…

    He loses because he refuses to play the game their way.

    I’m considering a run, but it is simply because I could use the money.

    BuelahMan
    02/25/08 at 5:17 am

  7. I think Nader, Gravel, Dennis are all in the same level.

    They are the dark horses which History has yet to redeem them.

    Hugo
    02/25/08 at 5:51 am

  8. I see the success in a Nader campaign…

    The success of Nader’s campaign is that he is running again, raising issues that the monolithic two parties refuse to discuss.

    The success of Nader is that he has more integrity in his left nipple than any candidate who would supplant his/her principles for party politics (that goes for Dennis Kucinich, too).

    The success of Ralph Nader is that he is going to force weak ass liberals who are so easily manipulated by corporate politics to take stock of their ideals and vote their consciences: if not now, then in some not-so-distant future presidential race. Those who would vote for the status quo are the same types of people who delayed the end of slavery, women’s suffrage, and the Civil Rights movement. There’s death in gradualism. You’ll die before change comes, but come it will.

    Even if one has no intention of voting for Nader, one should celebrate Nader’s campaign as a victory for democracy and defend his right to participate in all the debates leading up to November. The more votes Nader gets, the closer we are to real democracy!

    peace

    peacelf
    02/25/08 at 1:26 pm

  9. Here is a good piece presenting both sides to the argument as to whether or not Nader should run.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080224_two_views_on_naders_candidacy/

    He has every right to run, obviously. Personally, I wish he would find another (more effective) vehicle for his advocacy of these issues that aren’t being addressed..its hard not to believe that he isn’t driven by ego when he pops up every four years. While the message is valid, I find the messenger really not effective. What has his third party presidential attempts yielded over the long run (this is his fifth run)?

    elizabeth
    02/25/08 at 7:39 pm

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