By Manila Ryce
Published Tuesday, October 28th, 2008, 11:16 pm
Filed under: US Politics

8 Responses to “Zinn Won’t be Voting for Obama After All”

1. 

   Maybe Zinn read the comments on this blog, haha.

   Bernie
   10/29/08 at 2:18 am
   

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3. 

   Cool. Thanks for posting this. Hope word gets out.

   DandelionSalad
   10/29/08 at 3:39 am
   

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5. Okay, okay… I like Zinn again. I was afraid, for a while that he had sold out to the predominating paradigm of we’ll never be able to beatr ‘em so let’s join ‘em (Sell Out).

   But alas, Howard has shown both his intelligence and pragmatism.

   Yeah, Howard! Press on for Truth, Justice and Peace… As you Always have.

   -Dutch Merrick

   (Howard, you have my permission to publish this letter as you see fit.)

   Dutch
   10/29/08 at 7:25 am
   

6. It seems strange that Mr. Zinn is chiding Nader about “civic activity not having a chance to change policy”. Of the many speeches I’ve heard from Nader, his attempts at arousing civic responsibility and community coordination certainly contend for the keystone of his cause. Indeed it seems incongruous that Nader would concede to any cynicism in this regard.

   Jmalcolm
   10/29/08 at 10:05 am
   

7. I agree with Jmalcolm, what’s Zinn going on about? Nader has always supported stronger civic activism. In many of his speeches, he’s even suggesting greeting people with “How’s your civic life?” instead of “what’s up”, etc.

   I hear a lot of people refer to Nader as “cynical” (including Chris Hedges, of all people). But he’s more optimistic and has more energy than most people half his age when it comes to challenging power.

   Kimchi
   10/29/08 at 4:07 pm
   

8. Reasons to be cynical:

   Of course we in ’slam-dunk’ states will vote for Ralph, he is a true advocate for the people for decades now.

   But it is a sad time for ‘third parties’, as Ron Paul just pointed out on Maddow regarding why he remained GOP: The rules are made by goppers & dems, indies can’t even get on the debates, they’ll waste all their money just trying to get on ballots– But parties are almost irrelevant.

   This idea of democracy and voting is so far gone in this land it would take decades of popular struggle to make a dent in the promotion of democracy for the people (though a worthwhile struggle indeed).

   Yet not even blatant election fraud with disastrous consequences changed a thing. There’s not even a glimmer of dissent to this day against the horrific crimes of both parties in these last two cycles.

   Considering the popular complicity in american corruption, all a progressive voter can hope to achieve in this election is (perhaps an uncounted ballot for) a little more intelligence and a little less war.

   Domestic democracy in this land is clearly a lost cause ‘for now’. A sentient being who happens to find themselves floating in a red state of joe the mouth-breathing, wolf-killing, gun-blaring maniacs, in light of the complete failure of dissent to materialize despite the most extensive alternative news options ever available, is to vote against McBomb.

   The rest, including third parties will apparently be a very long time coming indeed (and if the past 8 years was not enough to activate the populace I truly don’t want to be around to see what sort of calamity it will take to prompt the people to exercise their supposed rights).

   But if you live in a too-far-gone state that’s already a diseased Limbaugh-imbibing lost cause, or if you live in a sure-fire anti-mcBomb state, then by all means cast a vote for true change as espoused by Ralph Nader.

   But if you’re in a swing state, the dire predicament leaves little choice but to hope to help sway your state to tip McBomb away from making more war.

   After that, good luck to all who wish to enlighten the people of the red-state heartland– one would need an expert in de-hypnotizing cults to convince joe the gun-toting fundamentalist bible-belted maniac that the militaristic mcbombs who epitomize their party don’t represent their best interests.

   You’d have an equally hard time convincing the upper-left side democratic idealogues that their impotent warmongering corporatist enablers Pelosi, Reid & Conyers represent any sort of opposition.

   Eternal gratitude to both Zinn and Chomsky. If even 1% of the populace exhibited half the activism and dissent these two octagenarians continue to manifest, perhaps the people of the electorate would not now be the the real party of criminal US complicity and corruption that they clearly are.

   Perhaps it’s time the people stopped looking to politicians and leaders to define their ideology, and look instead to the profound complicity and corruption in the hearts and minds of the Amerigoon populace which allowed the last admin to get away with the horrors it has (and likely will).

   Perhaps its time to acknowledge that the problem is not the media, nor the parties, nor the corporations, nor the ’system’ (which the vast drooling crowds of ‘Joe the Plumbers’ willfully espoused, supported and sponsored and still do in droves to this day), rather it’s the people who are the problem.

   The information is all right here, yet as we see only a predestined money crisis can even slightly sway the slimmest majority toward the lesser of warmongers (purely as an accidental byproduct of their own greed and selfishness for their ill-gotten gains).

   Blame not the last of the old-guard activists who with their remaining breath beseach us to think before we bomb, who unlike the daft drooling Deliverance-dwelling droves actually remember the warcrimes of our past and present.

   Blame instead the populace who arrogantly excuse the horrors of their militaristic ideology and who despite all, still to this day march like lemmings behind the criminal conspiracy in the capital which they actively put in place and decisively refuse to hold accountable regardless of epic atrocity committed in their name and with their support.

   There remain two great leaders, born political visionaries running for office in this cycle who remind us to remember with the required passion and power: Cindy Sheehan and Dennis Kucinich. If they don’t both win next week by vast landslides in their respective districts, then I rest my case.

   Natureboy
   10/29/08 at 11:07 pm
   

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